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picarol
New Member
catalan, spanish. spain
- May 21, 2006
- #1
Hello everyone!
I'm confused with years. We say 1994 (nineteen ninety-four) but 2001 (two thousand and one) But how do we say 2020? twenty twenty or two thousand and twenty? Does the same apply to 2090?
Thank you in advance!
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nircser
Member
Niedersachsen / West-Germany
filipino (Philippines)
- May 21, 2006
- #2
2020: twenty hundred twenty (or twenty twenty)
2090: twenty hundred nineteen (or twenty nineteen)
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maxiogee
Banned
English
- May 21, 2006
- #3
I think I go by the second and third digits.
The century is pronounced, and then the decade and then the single year.
If the century is 20 we say twenty - but only if the following digit is greater than 0. Think back to the Norman Conquest - it is always referred to as ten/sixtysix. 2020 will be twenty-twenty
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maxiogee
Banned
English
- May 21, 2006
- #4
nircser said:
2020: twenty hundred twenty (or twenty twenty)
2090: twenty hundred nineteenninety (or twenty nineteen
ninety)
Maybe in German, nircser, but not in English.
1905 = Nineteen hundred and five, but
2005 = Two thousand and five.
1990 = Nineteen ninety
2090 = Twenty ninety
timpeac
Senior Member
England
English (England)
- May 21, 2006
- #5
picarol said:
Hello everyone!
I'm confused with years. We say 1994 (nineteen ninety-four) but 2001 (two thousand and one) But how do we say 2020? twenty twenty or two thousand and twenty? Does the same apply to 2090?
Thank you in advance!
I've heard both twenty twenty and two thousand and twenty but I think twenty twenty is more common.
And yes - although we can say nineteen hundred and five we don't say twenty hundred and five. Strange.
Brioche
Senior Member
Adelaide
Australia English
- May 21, 2006
- #6
Way back in 1969, Zagar and Evans had a hit with the song "In the year 2525".
The song also mentioned the years 3535, 4545, 5555, 6565, 7510, 8510 and 9595.
All year are in the form: twenty-five twenty-five, &c, and seventy-five ten,
maxiogee
Banned
English
- May 21, 2006
- #7
timpeac said:
I've heard both twenty twenty and two thousand and twenty but I think twenty twenty is more common.
And yes - although we can say nineteen hundred and five we don't say twenty hundred and five. Strange.
I don't think it strange at all.
British English doesn't refer to the 10x numbers as hundreds, it is always thousands - 1000 is not ten hundred, it is always one thousand. There is more to be argued about the lack of flexibility about the other numbers - 1100 can be one thousand one hundred, or eleven hundred - than about the round thousands.
You may say nineteen hundred and five, but my father was born in nineteen nine - or sometimes nineteen oh nine.
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picarol
New Member
catalan, spanish. spain
- May 27, 2006
- #8
Thank you all! You have been very helpful.
Picarol
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Yôn
Senior Member
US English
- May 27, 2006
- #9
I don't do this, but if someone said:
twenty oh one
twenty oh six
I would not think it sounded weird.
I myself pronounce anything that is X-00-Y as X-thousand and Y. If it's X-0-WY, I would say: X0-hundred, WY. If it's X-0-X-0, I say X0, X0. If it's XVWY, I would say: XV,WY.
Not sure what I do when there are less than four digits... I guess then I just say it how I feel like saying it at that particular time in my life.
edit: should also say that if it's X-0-XY, I would say: X0,XY.
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dwipper
Senior Member
Iowa, U.S.
U.S. English
- May 27, 2006
- #10
I've always pronounced dates as I do money.
902 or $902 - Nine (hundred) oh two
1000 - One thousand
1002 - One thousand two
1102 - Eleven (hundred) and/oh two
1502 - Fifteen (hundred) and/oh two
2002 - Two thousand two
2102 - Twenty-one (hundred) and/oh two
2502 - Twenty-five (hundred) and/oh two
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Ivan_I
Banned
Russian
- Jan 2, 2020
- #11
So, 2020 has arrived how do you pronounce it?
two thousand and twenty
or
twenty twenty
???
JulianStuart
Senior Member
Sonoma County CA
English (UK then US)
- Jan 2, 2020
- #12
Twenty twenty is aready common in my usage and that of those around me and in the media. Much easier to say
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Ivan_I
Banned
Russian
- Jan 2, 2020
- #13
JulianStuart said:
Twenty twenty is aready common in my usage and that of those around me and in the media. Much easier to say
Thank you!
two thousand and twenty - wrong or not widely accepted?
JulianStuart
Senior Member
Sonoma County CA
English (UK then US)
- Jan 2, 2020
- #14
Ivan_I said:
Thank you!
two thousand and twenty - wrong or not widely accepted?
Never wrong, just a mouthful In a conversation about excellent eyesight I might say that (so as not to be confused with 20/20 vision)
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analeeh
Senior Member
English - UK
- Jan 2, 2020
- #15
It's not wrong. I'd say this is a matter of personal preference, although I think people are angling more towards the twenty-twenty style because it's less cumbersome.
kentix
Senior Member
English - U.S.
- Jan 2, 2020
- #16
In a more formal context, "two thousand twenty". In a less formal context (the majority) 'twenty twenty".
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Rover_KE
Senior Member
Northwest England - near Blackburn, Lancashire
British English
- Jan 2, 2020
- #17
I recommend twenty-twenty in all contexts.
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Linkway
Senior Member
British English
- Jan 3, 2020
- #18
Years in dates:
1820 --- eighteen twenty.
1920 --- nineteen twenty.
2020 --- twenty twenty.
Simples!
Uncle Jack
Senior Member
Cumbria, UK
British English
- Jan 3, 2020
- #19
kentix said:
In a more formal context, "two thousand twenty". In a less formal context (the majority) 'twenty twenty".
Surely not.
Rover_KE said:
I recommend twenty-twenty in all contexts.
In the first decade of this millennium we did not have an established pronunciation. It seemed clear enough that it would eventually settle down to "twenty-something", but the film 2001: A Space Odyssey (released in 1968) was invariably pronounced "two thousand and one", and for a while "two thousand and..." seemed to be the favoured pronunciation. However, we are now twenty years in to the millennium, and I think "twenty something" is the indisputable winner.
Although I might now refer to the year as "twenty oh one", I'd still use "two thousand and one" for the film.
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Ivan_I
Banned
Russian
- Jan 3, 2020
- #20
But is it a matter of the preference of the majority of English speakers or is it mandatory?
entangledbank
Senior Member
London
English - South-East England
- Jan 3, 2020
- #21
By mandatory do you mean that everyone says it, not just most people?
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Ivan_I
Banned
Russian
- Jan 3, 2020
- #22
entangledbank said:
By mandatory do you mean that everyone says it, not just most people?
I mean that every one MUST say that.
heypresto
Senior Member
South East England
English - England
- Jan 3, 2020
- #23
There is no law that states that everyone MUST say anything.
And we don't have an English Academy that dictates how we speak, or what words or phrases we are or are not allowed to use.
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Linkway
Senior Member
British English
- Jan 3, 2020
- #24
heypresto said:
And we don't have an English Academy that dictates how we speak, or what words or phrases we are or are not allowed to use.
Yes. Glasnost and perestroika were welcomed into English-use without any announcement by the Queen.
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